What is the Flame of Oroladian?

Song details:
Title: State of Independence
Lyric by: Vangelis and Jon Anderson
On Warner Bros records
From album "Donna Summer" (K99163)

Does anyone know what the "flame of Oroladian" is, or something more
about it. The only Web reference I can find (apart from recursive
references to the actual lyric) is in a piece that appears to be
about legends of Atlantis at
http://www.fl-net.se/novell/noveller/atlantis.html .

However, this is in Swedish and, sadly, the only words I know in this
language are "Agnetha Faltskog". I have emailed the author of the
page (writing somewhat chauvinistically in English), but am yet to
hear anything.

--
William
(Header is no-bounce spam bin)

Annette

William <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I can make out a little Swedish, with the help of a German-Swedish
dictionary. The story is called "Atlantis Rising and . . . ", by
Linda Granqvist. Here is the earliest reference to Oroladian:

Hon fortsatte: He continued:
--Så har vi fyra oberoende So have we four wastes
till. Två av dessa har jag to. Two of them have I
försökt bearbeta, men dom tried to cultivate, but
vägrar säga hur dom kommer . . .
att rösta idag. Den tredje The third
har nästan säkert sagt att has the next surely said to
hon tänker rösta nej... ...nä, think it --- no ... nay,
svär inte, Erelas! Och nummer swear not, Erelas! And number
fyra har jag inte lyckats nå. four have I also had no luck with.
Men det värsta av allt, Erelas, But the worst of all, Erelas,
och nu får du inte svära, jag and now make you no oath, I
inte lyckats få tag i Oroladian. no luck get taking in Oroladian.
--Inte? --None?
. . .
--Försök på nytt, Loki! Gör --Try for need, Loki! Do
ditt bästa för att lokalisera the best for to locate
lady Oroladian, och övertala henne Lady Oroladian, and persuade her
att komma hit på det snaraste! to come here as fast as possible!

Later we learn that her first name is Ilaria (Hilaria?). I suspect
that Ms. Granqvist took the name from the song . . .

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The following answer:

Hello,
The only mention we find of 'flame of oroladian' is in the lyrics of a song
on Donna Summer's CD "Summer".
The speculation is that oroladian stems from OROLOGY, the science of
mountains , ORELIO, the steed of Don Roderick, the last of the Goths, known
for its speed and symmetry or ORELLANA the river AMazon, so called from
Orelana, lieutenant of Pizarro. Take your pick. Again, just etymological
speculation.
You also might try reaching Polygram, Summer's CD label Often these
references are arcane and very personal..
The best to you.
Carol P.

Hope this helps.

Rlm

...snip (your most helpful translation)

Thank you very much for your painstaking work. I am most grateful.

...snip very useful pointers.

Thank you very much for this. I have also bookmarked the above URL
for future reference.

"Oroladian was said to be one of the noble families in the lost
kingdom of Atlantis. Or it might have been a god. That's about
the only thing I know about that name"

I think we can assume it is Greek. Vangelis, one of the lyricists, is
Greek. Moreover, oro and ladi are both Greek roots--oro for mountain,
ladi for oil. Ladia in modern Greek means a growth of olives.

I have a feeling that if you go through Brentano's science-fiction
section looking for hack novels about Atlantis, you'll eventually
find one with the Flame of Oroladian.

-:-
The Duke emerged reluctantly from behind a statue of Zeus holding
an umbrella. "I was looking forward to a quiet evening of flogging
peasants."

"The peasants can wait, that's all," the Duchess replied. "Be
dressed by 7:30. And for heaven's sake try to control your temper
this time and not set fire to the Count's beard."

The Duke answered unrepentantly, "I had a royal gazebo and he
escrowed it."

--Len Cool, "Historical Perspective"